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he oversees fbi and knew it's going on. then, they can see he buried it, then, you've got fast and furious on the resume. >> you can bury certain things but only a certainly amount of time. and second terms are not kind to second term residents and barack obama won the election but may have lost the election. >> and so this is the first president held since he graduated if he hadn't had a lot of votes. >> you heard talking points mem yes. >> can i answer it here, bill? >> people agree with you and it's going to affect their votes. >> i think that dennis miller made a lot of sense. i agree more -- traditional america is gone. out of here! >> pretty much. and let's take a look at it this way from a political point of view. we keep hearing america is the center of the country. so i'm not sure it's center of right country. one. two, we keep hearing republicans have a problem with black soldiers and latinos and women, and young people. but far and way their biggest problem, biggest problem with republicans is with republicans. f
he oversees fbi and knew it's going on. then, they can see he buried it, then, you've got fast and furious on the resume. >> you can bury certain things but only a certainly amount of time. and second terms are not kind to second term residents and barack obama won the election but may have lost the election. >> and so this is the first president held since he graduated if he hadn't had a lot of votes. >> you heard talking points mem yes. >> can i answer it here, bill?...
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you know in the access to the e-mails that the fbi investigation. clearly will be questions and probably an investigation into whether our intelligence community was compromised by this. all indications are that it wasn't. but gene is right this also comes in a political contest which is the growing intensity of the growing investigations into what happened with respect to benghazi. there's so many balls in the air here. it's an awkward time for the cia to have this happen. there's never a nonawkward time but this is a particularly awkward time and for the administration as well which that's to shuffle the stop staff at the same time they're expected to asking questions from congress. i expect multiple story lines. >> i want to sam rise. law enforcement officials tell nbc news that the fbi is investigating the general's biographer paula broadwell for improperly trying to access general petraeus's e-mail and potentially accessing classified information. the officials say they do not believe this will result in any criminal charges. they also stressed
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have confidence in the fbi. not a ringing endorsement. he said i generally have confidence, but let me get all the facts about what's happened. and of course the fbi under robert mueller, who has so much integrity and is highly respected, argues that they were doing the right thing. the fbi agent interestingly, this is what we found out today, the fbi agent who brought this originally to congress and to eric cantor who called mueller, says he never meant to be a whistle-blower. he was not trying to make a big deal about this case. he just wanted to quietly get it moving, and he told a friend who went to a congressman from washington state where fredrick humphries is from, who went to eric cantor and that's how it got to mueller. >> okay, okay. excuse me. >> he's being incorrectly called a whistle-blower. >> sari, he goes to a congress person, going outside of his agency, about a person who is being accused -- or somebody who is making accusations of being harassed by e-mail. is that important enough, that some w
have confidence in the fbi. not a ringing endorsement. he said i generally have confidence, but let me get all the facts about what's happened. and of course the fbi under robert mueller, who has so much integrity and is highly respected, argues that they were doing the right thing. the fbi agent interestingly, this is what we found out today, the fbi agent who brought this originally to congress and to eric cantor who called mueller, says he never meant to be a whistle-blower. he was not...
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remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is now reporting according to advisers close to petraeus, petraeus only resigned after national intelligence director james clapper told him to do so. joining me now, spencer ackerman, senior writer for "wired" who writes for their national security blog, the danger room, and nbc's richard wolffe. richard, i don't know, i don't know much about waging war. i do know a little bit about living life. and these generals are writing absolutely crazy letters which i don't have time to read to a judge in a custody battle. >> right. >> a woman who has lost custody of her son, and in this country it is not easy for women to lose custody of children in these situati
remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is now reporting according to advisers close to petraeus, petraeus only resigned after national...
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after the fbi had been there. we believe they are valid. and thus far the state department has not eve acknowledge them. neil: that when alway one alwaya little strange to me. they're too stupid, left something of themselves behind, what do you think was going on? >> it was trouble some four weeks they could not get in there, and they were only in their evidently for a few hours. here we have some additional information that may shed light on what happened but did it happen. the state department obama administration is just not provided the document. we're doing investigation, congress will do an investigation. we deserve to have that information to get to the bottom of it. neil: with all these folks coming out, some going on the record, most off the record, these organizations saying we were trying to warn the administration, is almost as if they feel horribly guilty about what happened but they want to exonerate themselves to say we did everything we could do and we were ignored. is that the gist of it? >> if you had to summarize it, yes.
after the fbi had been there. we believe they are valid. and thus far the state department has not eve acknowledge them. neil: that when alway one alwaya little strange to me. they're too stupid, left something of themselves behind, what do you think was going on? >> it was trouble some four weeks they could not get in there, and they were only in their evidently for a few hours. here we have some additional information that may shed light on what happened but did it happen. the state...
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. >> bill: senators on the intelligence committee had no idea the fbi had discovered cia director petraeus in a compromising position. also, the situation was kept under wraps until after the election. we will have a full report about what this means for you. is the best country in the world. i liked it the way it was. it's not going to be that way anymore. >> bill: is dennis miller correct. is america finished as traditional country? i will give you some data so you can decide. also tonight, bernie goldberg, adam corolla. juan williams and mary katharineham. caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. happy veterans day to all of how have served your country you are patriots. we have a power packed program four tonight. talking points memo will be in next segment. dennis miller thought that traditional america is gone forever is that true? i have interesting things to tell you. top story tonight, cia director david petraeus forced to resign over extramarital affair. this is an awful situ
. >> bill: senators on the intelligence committee had no idea the fbi had discovered cia director petraeus in a compromising position. also, the situation was kept under wraps until after the election. we will have a full report about what this means for you. is the best country in the world. i liked it the way it was. it's not going to be that way anymore. >> bill: is dennis miller correct. is america finished as traditional country? i will give you some data so you can decide....
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and within two days we were able to get the fbi on the ground. i want to thank the tunisian government for making this person available to be interviewed by our law enforcement occasions, our investigative team. it is not enough to write questions. you have to be on the ground to look people in the eye and too yearia came through and two days after the letter here we are. >> greta: and it is quite extraordinary because the investigation has been stuck and my hat goes off to you forgetting it down, for picking up the ball and running with it. but the president of the united states i suspect has just as much influence if not more than two u.s. senators so what is your explanation for the fact that you guys had to jump into this? >> my belief is that this administration is trying to run out the clocking when it comes to benghazi. this is a story that changes by the day. what do we know. we know that before the a i tack in april and june of this year the consulate was attacked twice. we know that the british withdrew their -- closed their consulate a
and within two days we were able to get the fbi on the ground. i want to thank the tunisian government for making this person available to be interviewed by our law enforcement occasions, our investigative team. it is not enough to write questions. you have to be on the ground to look people in the eye and too yearia came through and two days after the letter here we are. >> greta: and it is quite extraordinary because the investigation has been stuck and my hat goes off to you forgetting...
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when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> paula introduced herself to david petraeus. she was a paratrooper, attractive, in great shape. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of reporters who are capable, but it's a very strange and completely surprising. >> it is and i'll leave it with this, that paula broadwell just published this week, general david petraeus' rules for living. we all make mistake, learn from them, drive on and avoid making them again. next, we have more on the resignation. peter king, the chair of the homeland security committee with how it could put the u.s. at risk. plus, after spending millions to elect mitt romney, has karl rove lost his touch? a look at all the money spent and wasted this election and it has b
when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> paula introduced herself to david petraeus. she was a paratrooper, attractive, in great shape. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of...
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he knows that the fbi knows about this. but he doesn't decide to go and tell the white house and offer to resign until clapper tells him to do so. >> more information. thank you so much, pete, for that reporting. more on the politics of the petraeus scandal, if you will. eugene robinson is an associate editor and columnist for "the washington post." also an msnbc political analyst. gene, this sense here -- let me show you something. some are howling about the timing of the resignation. he was set to testify about benghazi. here is ralph peters, an analyst for fox news. this is what i'm talking about, this emerging conspiracy theory, and here it is coming from fox. let's watch. >> as an old intelligence analyst, the way i read it, and i could be totally wrong, this is my interpretation is that the administration was unhappy with petraeus not playing ball 100% on their party line story. i think he was getting cold feet about testifying under oath and their party line story, and i suspect these tough chicago guys knew of this
he knows that the fbi knows about this. but he doesn't decide to go and tell the white house and offer to resign until clapper tells him to do so. >> more information. thank you so much, pete, for that reporting. more on the politics of the petraeus scandal, if you will. eugene robinson is an associate editor and columnist for "the washington post." also an msnbc political analyst. gene, this sense here -- let me show you something. some are howling about the timing of the...
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when the president talked about the fbi has a protocol. they followed it but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. still questions about why this investigation began whether it was appropriate for the fbi to investigate this. fran townsend, appreciate it. there is new information on jill kelley and her husband scott. they started a charity and dissolved it later. >> drew joins me, what have you learned? >> another twisted part of this tale. as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard she and her husband were battling a bank and court because the documents show the red brick house that we have been showing purchased in 2004 for $1.5 million four years later the bank files to foreclose on the kelly's because the bank says they hadn't sent in a mortgage payment since september 2009. the kellkelleys show they are n other lawsuits involving money and the kelley family. >> what about the charity? >> it was called the dr. kelley cancer foundation. it was to conduct research and efforts of term ali ill patients
when the president talked about the fbi has a protocol. they followed it but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. still questions about why this investigation began whether it was appropriate for the fbi to investigate this. fran townsend, appreciate it. there is new information on jill kelley and her husband scott. they started a charity and dissolved it later. >> drew joins me, what have you learned? >> another twisted part of this tale. as jill kelley was...
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but what we're now learning from sources close to the fbi is that the fbi had been investigating general petraeus and as part of a larger investigation, the name of paula broadwell, who is general petraeus' biographer. she wrote a book that came out in january called-"all in, the education of general david h. petraeus." she had spent about a year in afghanistan with him, documenting his life, and it seems that the fbi was investigating something broader. her name came up. they started investigating concern that general petraeus now head of the cia was possibly some sort of victim in it or could be -- could be blackmailed in some sort of way. they never found that. but in the process, they uncovered this affair. now, there are also questions that are raised tonight, laura, about if this affair occurred while he was still a four star general key face some sort of military punishment? of course, it's against the ucmj code to van affair. could he be demoted? key face further cobs sequences? we really don't know the answer to that right now. sources confirming to fox that the affair was with
but what we're now learning from sources close to the fbi is that the fbi had been investigating general petraeus and as part of a larger investigation, the name of paula broadwell, who is general petraeus' biographer. she wrote a book that came out in january called-"all in, the education of general david h. petraeus." she had spent about a year in afghanistan with him, documenting his life, and it seems that the fbi was investigating something broader. her name came up. they started...
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when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way all the way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on just the idea of harassing e-mails. if they were even that. fran townsend, appreciate it. suzanne kelly. >>> there is new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they started a cancer charity back in 2005, shortly after they moved to tampa, dissolved it a couple of years later and they are facing several lawsuits over money problems. drew griffin who is part of the cnn special investigation unit joins us with more on that what have you learned? >> another twisted part of the tale, anderson. public records show as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard, she and her husband, dr. scott kelley, were battling a bank in court, because the bank claimed they weren't paying their mortgage. documents show the
when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way all the way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on just the idea of harassing e-mails. if they were even that. fran townsend, appreciate it. suzanne kelly. >>> there is new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott,...
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fbi agents are currently at the home of paula broadwell. wcnc-tv in charlotte are reporting that agents arrived at broadwell's home at 9:00 p.m. and took boxes and suitcases and photos from the foam. a spokeswoman confirms the report and says it's a consensual search and not a raid or "a game changer." the fbi official says it is one of the final steps to closing out their investigation of broadwell. also tonight, "the wall street journal" reports new details how the federal bureau of investigation handled the case suggests even as the bureau delve into mr. petraeus' personal life, the agency had to address questionable conduct by one of its own, including allegedly sending shirtless photos of himself to a woman involved in the case. that woman is jill kelly, a family friend of petraeus, who first brought to the fbi's attention troubling e-mails she was receiving from an anonymous e-mail account operated by paula broadwell. we heard from the ghost writer of broadwell's biography of petraeus. he says my wife says i'm the most clueless person
fbi agents are currently at the home of paula broadwell. wcnc-tv in charlotte are reporting that agents arrived at broadwell's home at 9:00 p.m. and took boxes and suitcases and photos from the foam. a spokeswoman confirms the report and says it's a consensual search and not a raid or "a game changer." the fbi official says it is one of the final steps to closing out their investigation of broadwell. also tonight, "the wall street journal" reports new details how the federal...
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but it's a specific problem for bob muller, head of the fbi, how do you, as head of the fbi, explain that you have these letters, drafted -- and found by the way, among many documents that we believe to be authentic, a copy of the new yorker magazine, addressed to ambassador stevens and expense reports and others things that suggest they weren't forged do you means to make the administration look bad. how do you explain missing evidence? this tells part of the story. if you have a back story that suggests that the police, car 322 was doing surveillance on the compound, two days before this attack, and then you have shawn smith in his last messages that he typed to his gaming message board saying, we are under watch by the police. this is important evidence. it is sit the on the ground of the consulate. it is unbelievable. >> greta: rick, the senator roberts said that the military have asked him about it, veterans. but i don't see -- i mean, i don't see a lot of people talking about it. will this have no impact on the vote in some impact? >> last time i talked about this, i got ripped
but it's a specific problem for bob muller, head of the fbi, how do you, as head of the fbi, explain that you have these letters, drafted -- and found by the way, among many documents that we believe to be authentic, a copy of the new yorker magazine, addressed to ambassador stevens and expense reports and others things that suggest they weren't forged do you means to make the administration look bad. how do you explain missing evidence? this tells part of the story. if you have a back story...
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the fbi agent was never on the case. he brought the information to the fbi, but he was never part of the original investigation because he was a friend of miss kelley's. >> so what is all this thing about him being frustrated because he wasn't on the case? what was that about? >> he was frustrated because he learned about the information that was being gathered. he brought the original case, he was frustrated that the information about petraeus and broadwell had not come out yet, and he thought that the justice department and the fbi were dragging their feet, so he -- that's why he went to the hill. >> okay. let me get back to david on this, on the military end of this thing. why was petraeus basically forced to resign? why did the matter come to his superior, mr. clapper, head of intelligence -- all the intelligence services? why was it going through channels? why did he get confronted with basically a request to resign? how did that happen if this wasn't criminal, what he was doing? >> because he wasn't on active duty,
the fbi agent was never on the case. he brought the information to the fbi, but he was never part of the original investigation because he was a friend of miss kelley's. >> so what is all this thing about him being frustrated because he wasn't on the case? what was that about? >> he was frustrated because he learned about the information that was being gathered. he brought the original case, he was frustrated that the information about petraeus and broadwell had not come out yet,...
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why would an fbi agent go to him? >> well, he actually went -- a friend of this fbi agent went to a representative from washington state originally. there was some kind of personal connection with the fbi agent's friend and he went to eric cantor. >> i see. >> one thing that's important to say, i mean, you talked about the sex and scandal is apparently the national security concerns have all been knocked down. at this point there don't appear to be from the justice department or from the fbi any national security concerns. >> well, let me go to david wood on that very point. david, your sense of this watching it from above, meaning from the policy level looking at the sordidness of this, what does it mean? it looks like petraeus' career has ended. he did the honorable thing i think in the end by just falling on his sword. that's over with. what about general allen, our commander in afghanistan? this would seem to be somewhat distracting to be sending something like 30,000 e-mails or whatever out. i don't even know how
why would an fbi agent go to him? >> well, he actually went -- a friend of this fbi agent went to a representative from washington state originally. there was some kind of personal connection with the fbi agent's friend and he went to eric cantor. >> i see. >> one thing that's important to say, i mean, you talked about the sex and scandal is apparently the national security concerns have all been knocked down. at this point there don't appear to be from the justice department...
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that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that. >> joe sestak, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of layoffs. he's blaming president obama's re-election. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the re-election of our first african-american president. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson will weigh in on the racist reactions around the country. >>> thanks for staying with us tonight. the leader of a comp
that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that....
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how normal is it for the fbi to investigate the cia? >> well, if they think there's some sort of crime that's occurred and in my limited understanding of what happened, this began because someone had a belief that general petraeus's computer had been compromised which led to the next step. the fbi does crime, not the cia. this is the proper course to take. and again transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. this is tough. you and i know both know it. for a general who has done so much for this nation. i think this showed what kind of a man he was that he did his soul searching, but he handed in his resignation because that's what we're trained to do and people should take a lesson on that. >> joe, good to have you with us on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of lay yufs. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the reelection of our first african-american president. msnbc politica
how normal is it for the fbi to investigate the cia? >> well, if they think there's some sort of crime that's occurred and in my limited understanding of what happened, this began because someone had a belief that general petraeus's computer had been compromised which led to the next step. the fbi does crime, not the cia. this is the proper course to take. and again transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. this is tough. you and i know both know it. for a...
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that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that. >> joe sestak, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of layoffs. he's blaming president obama's re-election. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the re-election of our first african-american president. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson will weigh in on the racist reactions around the country. g to come back from rough economic times. employees are bein
that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that....
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citizen, samir khan, whose family had been told by the fbi he had not committed any crimes, then two weeks later, awlaki's 16-year- old son was killed while having dinner with his teenage cousins and friends. there's been no explanation as to why that young american citizen was killed in this drone strike. yet obama authorizing drone strikes to killed three u.s. citizens in two weeks. the year before this happened, you put forward legislation in the co that did not mention al-awlaki's by name, but said the president did not have the right to unilaterally authorized the assassination of the u.s. citizen without due process, only six of your colleagues sign on to that legislation. to me, that is one of the sort of in during symbols of your legacy in congress. the fact you're one of only half a dozen members of congress, not a single senator, to simply state on the record that american citizens have the right not to be assassinated by their own government without due process. what -- what is your sense of how much damage this administration has done to those core causes you fall for for
citizen, samir khan, whose family had been told by the fbi he had not committed any crimes, then two weeks later, awlaki's 16-year- old son was killed while having dinner with his teenage cousins and friends. there's been no explanation as to why that young american citizen was killed in this drone strike. yet obama authorizing drone strikes to killed three u.s. citizens in two weeks. the year before this happened, you put forward legislation in the co that did not mention al-awlaki's by name,...